Seems like folks want a place to chat, say what’s on their mind, share interesting job intel, and likewise. This new category and thread is the place for all manner of random discussion.
Why the belief in polygraphs- the huge number of false positives hones down the available pool of candidates where the qualification for employment shifts from competence to simply being cleared.
J. Smith
I am a Peoplesoft resource with a secret clearance on a DOD contract in New Orleans. I’m in search of independent contracting.
Engineering Product Development PeopleSoft HRMS 8.8
Engineering/Product Development | Applications Software Architect | Reston VA then New Orleans, LA in June 2006 / USA | Information Technology
Salary: 115K – 120K
Description:
Responsive to specific issues impacting primary assigned support area. Have detail experience in PeopleSoft security and workflow. Analyze HR requirements for DIMHRS functionality and prepare key management presentations (impact assessments, design alternatives, point papers, major design decisions). Serve as a reviewer of deliverables from functional analystss to ensure consistency with standards and within scope of overall program objectives. Serve in a lead role on special projects when assigned to support the overall program objective including developing project plans, organizing and leading meetings as well as coordinating task of other resources. Must possess: PeopleSoft 8.8 security (roles and permissions) — really prefer 8.9 if you can find. PeopleSoft 8.8 workflow — prefer 8.9 PeopleSoft 8.8 group build/mass update — prefer 8.9 Disconnected nodesResponsive to specific issues impacting primary assigned support area. Have detail experience in PeopleSoft security and workflow. Analyze HR requirements for DIMHRS functionality and prepare key management presentations (impact assessments, design alternatives, point papers, major design decisions). Serve as a reviewer of deliverables from functional analystss to ensure consistency with standards and within scope of overall program objectives. Serve in a lead role on special projects when assigned to support the overall program objective including developing project plans, organizing and leading meetings as well as coordinating task of other resources. Must possess: PeopleSoft 8.8 security (roles and permissions) — really prefer 8.9 if you can find. PeopleSoft 8.8 workflow — prefer 8.9 PeopleSoft 8.8 group build/mass update — prefer 8.9 Disconnected nodes Security Clearance Required.
Anonymous
Does DSS revoke clearances for omissions of drug use that occurred before the clearance was granted? For instance, say someone wants to upgrade their clearance and wishes to disclose instances that were not mentioned or discovered in the initial investigation. No instances of usage occurred after obtaining the clearance. What happens in these situations?
admin
Anonymous – you’ve got quite the dilemma. Why was the drug use not mentioned when the first clearance application was submitted? Was it intentionally omitted or an honest mistake?
Anonymous
A few of these instances were honestly forgotten and the others were omitted out of embarrassment. DSS maintains an internet archive of clearance adjudications and appeals of revoked or denied clearance cases. Denied cases involving omissions and inacuracies also typically contain instances of continued drug usage and/or criminal records. Appealed cases with omissions that were ultimately granted clearances had to demonstrate non-continuance of usage, trustworthyness, and resistance to coercion through coworker testimonials, continued professional or academic growth, or in extreme cases rehab programs. It seems to be a huge gamble to attempt a clearance upgrade because depending on the adjudicator’s interpretation of the law and poliy on the facts of a case — the outcome could go either way!
James
What websites should a person interested in intelligence visit to learn about the career and changes in the career?
Jake
I have a question that I hope someone on this board might be able to answer. In college I signed up for ROTC, filled out the ‘ol EPSQ and received a Secret clearance. I’ve had a questionable medical history regarding Asthma, I was never formally diagnosed, but I have had symptoms, prescriptions, etc., and when filling out the medical form with the recruiter, I was told to leave all of that stuff off. A few years into the program, but before commissioning, I started talking with some older more experienced soldiers about the situation, and they urged me to go back and change my responses. I told me CO the situation, needless to say he was pretty angry. I got the official test for Asthma, and it was officially inconclusive. The whole ordeal ended up with me being disenrolled from ROTC and forced to pay back two years of scholarship, and the revocation of my clearance. Currently, I am under consideration for a civilian job that would require a TS, would what I described above disqualify me from getting my TS?
John Hull
I have a question for the group, how hard is it to get my security clearance re-instated, would I have to go through an employeer to make that happen? I had a TS clearance while in the military but once I got out it went inactive. I would really enjoy getting back into Security Clearance work again. I am currently working for IBM doing a lot of IT Architect work so I am sure I could fine a job in that field.
Fortunately mitigating conditions #17a, 17b, and 17c seem to apply.
Unless you received something in writing from the US Army Central Clearance Facility, do not assume that your clearance was revoked.
Good luck.
Bill Henderson
John,
Yes, you have to be employed in a position that requires a clearance or signed an employment agreement with a definite start date.
If you separated from the military more 23 months ago, you will need a new investigation regardless of the level of clearance. Otherwise, if your SSBI or last PR was less than 5 years ago, your TS clearance can be reinstated without an investigation. If it was a little more than than 5 years ago, you will need a SSBI-PR for a TS, nothing for a Secret or Confidential. For more information check out DCID 6/4 (appendix to Annex A).
Regards,
Bill
L G
retiring from the military in Jun 07, where is the best place to seek employment in the HR career field? I have a TS/SCI.
admin
LG – The best defense industry HR jobs are with Federal contractors. Your TS/SCI will be helpful in landing a good role. Definitely get your resume on ClearanceJobs.com as well as applying directly to jobs listed on employers’ websites like Raytheon, CSC, Boeing, CACI, and Titan.
scrummed
After nearly 20 years of service, both active duty military and as a contractor, without a blip, I found myself caught in an adulterous relationship with a foreign national. I will spare the details, but I eventually wound up having my SCI-access revoked (my collateral has remained, although it seems to be of little value, and is also undergoing an update, because it was overdue).
My question is that I am fuzzy on when/if my SCI can ever be favorably re-adjudicated (reinstated) or if the previously denied appeal is final, forever? For instance, my update was put in with an SCI requirement attached to it, so will it go forth and possibly get my SCI reinstated?
I think I’ve read where a year must pass (it has), but I can’t find anything on that anywhere.
Tony
I currently have a US Air Force TS/SCI clearance. I applied for a DoD Contractor job. They’ve required me to re-submit the SF86 to have my clearance adjudicated. How long does the process usually take to adjudicate from a military TS/SCI clearance to a DoD Contractor TS/SCI clearance? Hopefully it’s not that long.
Richard
I am a 54 year old retired Marine Corps officer. Retired in 1999. I am an Attorney (not JAG Corps)and a former Federal Agent (NCIS). Since I retired so long ago naturally my clearance is gone. I have tried and tried for contractor jobs but no bites. Any suggestions on where I can get some good leads. I have extensive Governance experience and extensive management experience.
Thanks
Richard
Marine Wife
Hey Everyone! This is my first time posting on the site but was hoping someone could give me a little insight into the world of top secret security clearance jobs.
My husband is currently active duty in the Marine Corps in the DC area. He is going to be getting out in about a year after 8 years of service. In the Marine Corps, he is logistics planner.
I would like to live in Indiana (where our family is). However, my husband keeps saying that ALL the great jobs in DC for him to use his top secret clearance are in DC. The only thing is…even if he made $180k in DC and I also bring in about $50k, we really want a HOUSE, a nice house, that isn’t 40 miles away.
So my question is, is Indiana not the best place for him to fully utilize his security clearance? I know that I do not want to stay in the DC area, but I am more than willing to compromise of moving to a different state/area where it is affordable AND he can use his clearance. Any input would be great. If you could please email me at [email protected], that would be great. I don’t know if I’ll be able to find this blog again, but I will bookmark it! : ) Thank you!
admin
Marine Wife:
Welcome! Hubby is correct in that all of the best defense industry jobs, the highest growth potential, and the highest salaries are all in metro DC. Sure, the cost of living is higher, but in most cases, salaries make up for that issue. Look at https://about.clearancejobs.com/salary/security-clearance-compensation-survey later this week for a new salary survey for you to view.
There are some security clearance jobs in Indiana, but they all tend to be Engineering jobs. If that is your husband’s specialty, you may have a case. If not, I’m afraid there aren’t too many defense jobs there to get into.
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Why the belief in polygraphs- the huge number of false positives hones down the available pool of candidates where the qualification for employment shifts from competence to simply being cleared.
I am a Peoplesoft resource with a secret clearance on a DOD contract in New Orleans. I’m in search of independent contracting.
J. Smith – Have you seen this?
https://www.clearancejobs.com/jobs
Engineering Product Development PeopleSoft HRMS 8.8
Engineering/Product Development | Applications Software Architect | Reston VA then New Orleans, LA in June 2006 / USA | Information Technology
Salary: 115K – 120K
Description:
Responsive to specific issues impacting primary assigned support area. Have detail experience in PeopleSoft security and workflow. Analyze HR requirements for DIMHRS functionality and prepare key management presentations (impact assessments, design alternatives, point papers, major design decisions). Serve as a reviewer of deliverables from functional analystss to ensure consistency with standards and within scope of overall program objectives. Serve in a lead role on special projects when assigned to support the overall program objective including developing project plans, organizing and leading meetings as well as coordinating task of other resources. Must possess: PeopleSoft 8.8 security (roles and permissions) — really prefer 8.9 if you can find. PeopleSoft 8.8 workflow — prefer 8.9 PeopleSoft 8.8 group build/mass update — prefer 8.9 Disconnected nodesResponsive to specific issues impacting primary assigned support area. Have detail experience in PeopleSoft security and workflow. Analyze HR requirements for DIMHRS functionality and prepare key management presentations (impact assessments, design alternatives, point papers, major design decisions). Serve as a reviewer of deliverables from functional analystss to ensure consistency with standards and within scope of overall program objectives. Serve in a lead role on special projects when assigned to support the overall program objective including developing project plans, organizing and leading meetings as well as coordinating task of other resources. Must possess: PeopleSoft 8.8 security (roles and permissions) — really prefer 8.9 if you can find. PeopleSoft 8.8 workflow — prefer 8.9 PeopleSoft 8.8 group build/mass update — prefer 8.9 Disconnected nodes Security Clearance Required.
Does DSS revoke clearances for omissions of drug use that occurred before the clearance was granted? For instance, say someone wants to upgrade their clearance and wishes to disclose instances that were not mentioned or discovered in the initial investigation. No instances of usage occurred after obtaining the clearance. What happens in these situations?
Anonymous – you’ve got quite the dilemma. Why was the drug use not mentioned when the first clearance application was submitted? Was it intentionally omitted or an honest mistake?
A few of these instances were honestly forgotten and the others were omitted out of embarrassment. DSS maintains an internet archive of clearance adjudications and appeals of revoked or denied clearance cases. Denied cases involving omissions and inacuracies also typically contain instances of continued drug usage and/or criminal records. Appealed cases with omissions that were ultimately granted clearances had to demonstrate non-continuance of usage, trustworthyness, and resistance to coercion through coworker testimonials, continued professional or academic growth, or in extreme cases rehab programs. It seems to be a huge gamble to attempt a clearance upgrade because depending on the adjudicator’s interpretation of the law and poliy on the facts of a case — the outcome could go either way!
What websites should a person interested in intelligence visit to learn about the career and changes in the career?
I have a question that I hope someone on this board might be able to answer. In college I signed up for ROTC, filled out the ‘ol EPSQ and received a Secret clearance. I’ve had a questionable medical history regarding Asthma, I was never formally diagnosed, but I have had symptoms, prescriptions, etc., and when filling out the medical form with the recruiter, I was told to leave all of that stuff off. A few years into the program, but before commissioning, I started talking with some older more experienced soldiers about the situation, and they urged me to go back and change my responses. I told me CO the situation, needless to say he was pretty angry. I got the official test for Asthma, and it was officially inconclusive. The whole ordeal ended up with me being disenrolled from ROTC and forced to pay back two years of scholarship, and the revocation of my clearance. Currently, I am under consideration for a civilian job that would require a TS, would what I described above disqualify me from getting my TS?
I have a question for the group, how hard is it to get my security clearance re-instated, would I have to go through an employeer to make that happen? I had a TS clearance while in the military but once I got out it went inactive. I would really enjoy getting back into Security Clearance work again. I am currently working for IBM doing a lot of IT Architect work so I am sure I could fine a job in that field.
Thanks,
John
Jake:
No simple answer to your question. The 2005 Adjudicative Guideline E: Personal Conduct applies to intentional falsification. You can see the guidelines at https://www.state.gov/m/ds/clearances/60321.htm. The Adjudicator’s Desktop Reference (although somewhat out of date provides some additional information that may be taken into consideration by adjudicators. It can be viewed at https://www.army.mil/info/organization/unitsandcommands/commandstructure/smdc/.
Fortunately mitigating conditions #17a, 17b, and 17c seem to apply.
Unless you received something in writing from the US Army Central Clearance Facility, do not assume that your clearance was revoked.
Good luck.
John,
Yes, you have to be employed in a position that requires a clearance or signed an employment agreement with a definite start date.
If you separated from the military more 23 months ago, you will need a new investigation regardless of the level of clearance. Otherwise, if your SSBI or last PR was less than 5 years ago, your TS clearance can be reinstated without an investigation. If it was a little more than than 5 years ago, you will need a SSBI-PR for a TS, nothing for a Secret or Confidential. For more information check out DCID 6/4 (appendix to Annex A).
Regards,
Bill
retiring from the military in Jun 07, where is the best place to seek employment in the HR career field? I have a TS/SCI.
LG – The best defense industry HR jobs are with Federal contractors. Your TS/SCI will be helpful in landing a good role. Definitely get your resume on ClearanceJobs.com as well as applying directly to jobs listed on employers’ websites like Raytheon, CSC, Boeing, CACI, and Titan.
After nearly 20 years of service, both active duty military and as a contractor, without a blip, I found myself caught in an adulterous relationship with a foreign national. I will spare the details, but I eventually wound up having my SCI-access revoked (my collateral has remained, although it seems to be of little value, and is also undergoing an update, because it was overdue).
My question is that I am fuzzy on when/if my SCI can ever be favorably re-adjudicated (reinstated) or if the previously denied appeal is final, forever? For instance, my update was put in with an SCI requirement attached to it, so will it go forth and possibly get my SCI reinstated?
I think I’ve read where a year must pass (it has), but I can’t find anything on that anywhere.
I currently have a US Air Force TS/SCI clearance. I applied for a DoD Contractor job. They’ve required me to re-submit the SF86 to have my clearance adjudicated. How long does the process usually take to adjudicate from a military TS/SCI clearance to a DoD Contractor TS/SCI clearance? Hopefully it’s not that long.
I am a 54 year old retired Marine Corps officer. Retired in 1999. I am an Attorney (not JAG Corps)and a former Federal Agent (NCIS). Since I retired so long ago naturally my clearance is gone. I have tried and tried for contractor jobs but no bites. Any suggestions on where I can get some good leads. I have extensive Governance experience and extensive management experience.
Thanks
Richard
Hey Everyone! This is my first time posting on the site but was hoping someone could give me a little insight into the world of top secret security clearance jobs.
My husband is currently active duty in the Marine Corps in the DC area. He is going to be getting out in about a year after 8 years of service. In the Marine Corps, he is logistics planner.
I would like to live in Indiana (where our family is). However, my husband keeps saying that ALL the great jobs in DC for him to use his top secret clearance are in DC. The only thing is…even if he made $180k in DC and I also bring in about $50k, we really want a HOUSE, a nice house, that isn’t 40 miles away.
So my question is, is Indiana not the best place for him to fully utilize his security clearance? I know that I do not want to stay in the DC area, but I am more than willing to compromise of moving to a different state/area where it is affordable AND he can use his clearance. Any input would be great. If you could please email me at [email protected], that would be great. I don’t know if I’ll be able to find this blog again, but I will bookmark it! : ) Thank you!
Marine Wife:
Welcome! Hubby is correct in that all of the best defense industry jobs, the highest growth potential, and the highest salaries are all in metro DC. Sure, the cost of living is higher, but in most cases, salaries make up for that issue. Look at https://about.clearancejobs.com/salary/security-clearance-compensation-survey later this week for a new salary survey for you to view.
There are some security clearance jobs in Indiana, but they all tend to be Engineering jobs. If that is your husband’s specialty, you may have a case. If not, I’m afraid there aren’t too many defense jobs there to get into.